4K Blu-ray "Ultra HD Blu-ray" details

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I’ve just spent the last hour on the phone with BDA spokesperson Dan Schinasi and Ron Martin of Panasonic Hollywood Labs, and I can announce and confirm that 4K Blu-ray will officially be known as Ultra HD Blu-ray. The logo has not yet been finalized, but Dan and Ron were able to offer significant new details about the format.

As you know, the BDA’s global promotions committee chair, Victor Matsuda, has confirmed that the BDA board has now approved the draft extension of the existing Blu-Ray spec to include 4K. I’m told that the actual 4K spec extension is close to lockdown, with major agreement already in place between the various BDA members – there’s apparently just a few loose ends yet to be worked out. The spec is expected to be frozen sometime in the first half of 2015, with the goal that format licensing can begin by mid-year. That could mean that the first actual players and discs may arrive in stores in time for the holidays this year (Panasonic’s Ultra HD Blu-ray prototype is pictured below), though I suspect you’ll more likely see the first real rollout at CES 2016.

I’ve also officially confirmed that Ultra HD Blu-ray willrequire a new player, but that these new players will be backwards compatible, able to play all current Blu-ray and DVD software (including the existing 1080p Blu-ray 3D discs – note that true 4K 3D doesn’t yet technically exist yet as a format). Ultra HD Blu-ray will employ High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC – also known as H.265), which is the successor to H.264/MPEG-4 AVC and is considered the most efficient video compression standard available. Given that 4K video content requires much greater data space than existing 1080p, Ultra HD Blu-ray Discs will be produced in two configurations: 66GB dual-layer and 100GB triple-layer. Dan and Ron tell me that the goal in creating the Ultra HD Blu-ray spec extension is to future-proof the format, by including higher video frame rates (up to 60p), wider color gamut (up to Rec.2020 or BT.2020), and High Dynamic Range (HDR). All of this is hardware-mandated by the spec, though actual software implementation of this capability will of course be up to the individual studios and content providers. But the idea is that it gives filmmakers and content producers a great deal of room to work, and lots of headroom to add image quality going forward, as display manufactures roll out future and ever more capable UHD displays.

Ultra HD Blu-ray is also going to include some optionalspec capabilities, the implementation of which will be up to both hardware and software manufactures. One of these will be Digital Extension or Digital Bridge, which (if and when employed) could allow consumers to securely move and copy movie content from the UHD-BD discs to their own hard drives and to mobile devices. The goal is to make the whole “digital copy” process much easier on Ultra HD Blu-ray than it is today on existing Blu-ray and DVD.

The open question, of course, is whether or not the Hollywood studios will move to firmly support Ultra HD Blu-ray, even as they’re pulling back from existing Blu-ray in favor of streaming and downloads. Moreover, by the time Ultra HD Blu-ray players and discs start to come to market, there will already be stiff competition from Netflix, Amazon Prime and other services, which are making strong commitments to streaming 4K content delivery. But the good news, I’m told, is that there’s great enthusiasm and excitement for Ultra HD Blu-ray among the various BDA member studios, which include Disney, Sony, Fox, Warner, and others, as well as a great deal of cooperation within the industry. And of course, many of these studios are already mastering their films in 4K, so there should be no shortage of available content.

The goal of all this work (that’s currently under way within the BDA) is to ensure that Ultra HD Blu-ray greatly exceeds the quality of any other 4K video delivery format, and obviously to get the studios, the filmmakers, and of course movie/home theater consumers truly excited about physical media again. We’ve certainly all heard lots of talk about how it’s hard for most people to really appreciate the difference between 1080p and 4K content on mid-sized displays at average living room viewing distances, but the hope is that 4K resolution plus Ultra HD Blu-ray’s higher frame rate, wider color gamut, and greater dynamic range will make those difference obvious to anyone.

All right, I’d say that’s enough news for now. Not bad for one day, yes?

My thanks to Dan Schinasi of the BDA, Ron Martin of Panasonic Hollywood Labs, and Heather Gioco of Hoog Comm for their time and support today. Rest assured, we’ll be talking Ultra HD Blu-ray lots more with them in the weeks and months ahead, and we’ll be sure to bring all the latest details to you here at The Bits as we get them.

Stay tuned!

- Bill Hunt
 
We were ready to pull the trigger on new 4K until I started reading on the UHD Blu spec. Now back to a holding pattern waiting on 10bit+ panels and HDR capability. We upgrade entirely too often already, so this time waiting on the media first. Streaming doesnt count in my book as content!
 
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After unveiling their prototype machine at this year’s CES,
Panasonic are hoping to get the first full production 4K Blu-ray player onto the market in 2016…
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Exciting times for the future of 4K Ultra HD

In an interview with What Hi-Fi, Panasonic’s Head of Global TV Planning, Hiroyuki Iwaki, says the company is aiming for a release by Spring of next year. Iwaki told What Hi-Fi “We’ve been having discussions with Hollywood regarding content and what titles will be available. We want to be the first in this category but we wouldn’t launch before the content was ready.”

Iwaki however also revealed to the publication that they wouldn’t rule out a launch by the end of the year, so long as the specification of the 4K Blu-ray discs had been finalised by the Blu-ray Disc Association.

Iwaki’s comments will be much welcomed, with 4K content being slightly thin on the ground currently. It’s likely that this planned release date will also push the likes of Sony, LG and Samsung to reveal details of their own next-gen disc players.

Currently, 4K media in the UK is available through Netflix and a handful of other online providers, but Sky are rumoured to be launching a channel in the future and other services are likely to come on board, with 4K TV sales increasing dramatically over the past 12 months.

Author – Chris, Liverpool store
 
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hmmm after reading all of that i'm reckoning its goona be worth holding off for 2 things units to come out and prices to drop, its a real shame they didn't do 3d its like there trying to kill the format off with that spec.
i do like the idea of the bridge where you can copy to a hd though if the studios will let them though?

sounds like this may well be worth holding off for a bit for me i want 4k but i want all the features hdd 3d then they may rip the market up.

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2-3 years and we can appreciate 4K properly I think.

I will eventually start replacing all the bluray discs in my steelbooks with 4K bluray discs. Thankfully I don't intend to sell my collection at any point so it's not a big deal for me.
 
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I mean they are still releasing DVDs to this day so this must mean not everybody has Upgraded to blu-ray and if they are still including them I doubt that our regular Blu-ray or 3D versions on Blu-ray would disappear from future releases. It will take a long long time IMO. They may release 4K copies but maybe include the blu-ray 3D or whatever technology at that point that will offer 3D. But I can see them including the blu-ray 3D with the blu-ray 4K release as they are doing now with releasing the DVD with the Blu-ray combo. we might have different combos but if the demand is there they will not just stop selling them that would not make any sense.
 
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