Stephen King's It (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

[snooloui]

Release date: December 19th, 2016
Purchase link: Zavvi (Pre Order will be live on Saturday November 5th at 6pm UK Time)
Price: £15.99

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[severo]

If I can remember correctly they were an 8K print run. But I cannot recall when it was 'increased'. I thought that was the actual print run. I think the difference with this is they sell out, give a Dec pre-order date again, but have stock loads ready for dispatch.

little mermaid and jungle book's print runs were increased from 4K to (supposedly) 8K after selling out during pre-order period. they actually announced the increase in some kind of way, which led many people to cancel their (duplicate) orders and left zavvi with loads of overstock in the end. at least that's how i remember it.

 

[sunnyx]

little mermaid and jungle book's print runs were increased from 4K to (supposedly) 8K after selling out during pre-order period. they actually announced the increase in some kind of way, which led many people to cancel their (duplicate) orders and left zavvi with loads of overstock in the end. at least that's how i remember it.

So Zavvi shot themselves in the foot here. Saw 4K print run sold out and though yeah let's double the print run and got greedy to increase to 8K Now when everyone's returned theirs seeing there is nothing rare about this they have a load of cancellations to get rid of and top another 4k incoming. That explains why they so desperately wanted to get rid of them from their overpriced £22.99 at the time to £9.99...and yes it took ages to sell out!

 

[Flloydo]

If I can remember correctly they were an 8K print run. But I cannot recall when it was 'increased'. I thought that was the actual print run. I think the difference with this is they sell out, give a Dec pre-order date again, but have stock loads ready for dispatch.

They messed up with jungle book and mermaid and thought the demand was double the 4K plus it's not the best looking steel (but I personally like the simplicity of mermaid)
They both went to £9.99 for ages too and a few people got free copies when their site messed up (in the good ol days, wrong prices, codes taking the whole price off a steel and them honouring it, the pre orders of marvel, Disney and Pixar going up to order for half hour days before initial pre order - I was surprised that happened with fright night. That's not happned in a while)

I've already stated my opinion on zavvi doing this and it's not the first time. If they state a date then we understand we will get charged roughly 6 ish days before but to state a date and then to send it out over a month early is wrong. You may need them funds plus with knowing a date I can work out what I can afford that month. If it happens they should send a email out warning customers giving the option to cancel in time if they need to

I've mentioned this a million times over the years and even complained heavily to zavvi when they did it with lion king, beauty and beast and a few others (was like 5 Disney steels) just before Christmas.

 

[Flloydo]

So Zavvi shot themselves in the foot here. Saw 4K print run sold out and though yeah let's double the print run and got greedy to increase to 8K Now when everyone's returned theirs seeing there is nothing rare about this they have a load of cancellations to get rid of and top another 4k incoming. That explains why they so desperately wanted to get rid of them from their overpriced £22.99 at the time to £9.99...and yes it took ages to sell out!

This is around the time a lot of us got branded as "zavvi haters" and their greed was noticeable after the jungle book escapade. It's where it all started

After that they decided to over saturate the market with expensive catalogue titles with bad finishes from studio canal which lasted a good year or longer and then changed to limited 1000, 1500 or 2000 print runs and uped the prices. And that's continued for these old catalogue titles (hense why I now mostly wait for price drops 90% of the time and only pre order the odd catalogue title)

 

[sunnyx]

A lot of questions remain unanswered on this release. We will never know as you are going to get the same templated nonsense response from them. The main thing is everyone has got a copy. But it is the the way Zavvi have done this raises a few eyebrows. Secretly stashing 1.5k print run in their warehouse? Just releasing 1k first to hype it? For all we know they have another reserve of 2.5k floating around somewhere ready to pounce on the hype.

 

[Flloydo]

A lot of questions remain unanswered on this release. We will never know as you are going to get the same templated nonsense response from them. The main thing is everyone's got a copy. But it is the the way Zavvi have done this raises a few eyebrows. Secretly stashing 1.5k print run in their warehouse? Just releasing 1k first to hype it? For all we know they have another reserve of 2.5k floating around somewhere ready to pounce on the hype.

I haven't got one lol

Films too overated (has its moments) and the steel looks horrible from what ive seen. Not at that price anyway

 

[sunnyx]

I haven't got one lol

Films too overated (has its moments) and they steel looks horrible from what ive seen. Not at that price anyway

No you will just wait for £7.99 drop in price Can you imagine the uproar if that happened

 

[levi]

maybe they are simply telling the truth.

maybe the studio was taken by surprise that all 1000 were sold immediately with even more demand, and realise they underestimated it.

since its the same story wherever this steel has been made available, they can confidently print more knowing they will sell.

i assume zavvi give them feedback about stock levels, so they would have known how many units would have shifted and how fast, meaning they would have had plenty of time to produce and deliver the second print run to zavvi.

just because zavvi only told us a few days ago, doesnt mean they have only been working on it the last few days.

 

[Flloydo]

No you will just wait for £7.99 drop in price Can you imagine the uproar if that happened

Why not, it's happned in cases like this before.


Like @StifflersDad mentioned, I get a kick out of a bargain. Especially when the original price was crazy for what your getting

I get some great deals on the bay, in CEX and when zavvi have clear outs (proper clear outs, not their weekly nonsense where no prices have changed and instead have gone up lol)

 

[Flloydo]

maybe they are simply telling the truth.

maybe the studio was taken by surprise that all 1000 were sold immediately with even more demand, and realise they underestimated it.

since its the same story wherever this steel has been made available, they can confidently print more knowing they will sell.

i assume zavvi give them feedback about stock levels, so they would have known how many units would have shifted and how fast, meaning they would have had plenty of time to produce and deliver the second print run to zavvi.

just because zavvi only told us a few days ago, doesnt mean they have only been working on it the last few days.

Very true

(apparently it's suicidle for zavvi to give studios feedback though lol - joke from something that was mentioned the other week)

 

[virkia]

 

[paulboland]

This isn't the first time zavvi have extended a print run (if that's the case for this steel) and other retailers have done it too

Jungle book and possibly little
Mermaid were extended print runs

I have a feeling the orginal toy story and a few other pixars were too like up due to them being free through Disney rewards but that's just a guess

Jungle book and Little Mermaid was originally 5,000 each and both did end up as sold out when it was 5,000 print run they sold out very quickly
Disney did another 5,000 to make it a 10,000 print run each which was a mistake to do as it's easier to sell 5,000 than is 10,000

Zavvi then found it difficult to sell the extra 5,000 of each and decided not to do this again for future Disney Steelbooks
They went with 4,000 and 3,000 print run instead with some of the later releases after that mistake

 

[Flloydo]

Jungle book and Little Mermaid was originally 5,000 each and both did end up as sold out when it was 5,000 print run they sold out very quickly
Disney did another 5,000 to make it a 10,000 print run each which was a mistake to do as it's easier to sell 5,000 than is 10,000

Zavvi then found it difficult to sell the extra 5,000 of each and decided not to do this again for future Disney Steelbooks
They went with 4,000 and 3,000 print run instead with some of the later releases after that mistake

That's right it was 5k to 10k not 4K to 8k

Funny they learned form that mistake, they usually don't learn lol

 

[Vegano]

This is all pretty eFF'ed up if you are asking me. So sell out in less than an hour and they have 1.5k print slowly tucked in their sleeves ready for dispatch 2 weeks later. Yes Zavvi, very clever and sneaky. Hyping the 1000 print run when in reality it was probably 4k for all we know. Todd @blu-steel is right, there is no way to confirm what the print run really is...

That's right! It does seem REALLY suspicious, and i am VERY distrusting now of when a "Limited" edition from Zavvi is bigged up as "ONLY BLAH BLAH BLAH COPIES AVAILABLE", etc, etc - and this is just another example of that, and it's not just with Zavvi to be fair. All this does for me is to dampen my enthusiasm for the "LIMITED" release, and i end waiting for the price to come right down. And if i miss it? Oh well, thats life.

 

[Vegano]

maybe they are simply telling the truth.

maybe the studio was taken by surprise that all 1000 were sold immediately with even more demand, and realise they underestimated it.

since its the same story wherever this steel has been made available, they can confidently print more knowing they will sell.

i assume zavvi give them feedback about stock levels, so they would have known how many units would have shifted and how fast, meaning they would have had plenty of time to produce and deliver the second print run to zavvi.

just because zavvi only told us a few days ago, doesnt mean they have only been working on it the last few days.

Yeah, for sure that is a possibility.

 

[paulboland]

The only persons this really hurts are the ebay scalpers
Some members who ended up having to pay high price on ebay to get a copy when it was sold out
I have no time or love for ebay sellers who list a high price no matter how limited it is IMO it should be retail price + shipping + ebay fee the seller lists and not a penny more

It's a win for customers to not have to go to purchase from ebay and pay more than the retail price
Scalpers loose out with stock they not sold yet from previous order that's life and payback
Customers instead get to purchase at retail price instead

 

[Vegano]

A lot of questions remain unanswered on this release. We will never know as you are going to get the same templated nonsense response from them. The main thing is everyone has got a copy. But it is the the way Zavvi have done this raises a few eyebrows. Secretly stashing 1.5k print run in their warehouse? Just releasing 1k first to hype it? For all we know they have another reserve of 2.5k floating around somewhere ready to pounce on the hype.

Like you said, we'll never know, and it seems that's the way it will always be. Just makes me alot more cautious before hitting the pre-order button.

 

[sunnyx]

The only persons this really hurts are the ebay scalpers
Some members who ended up having to pay high price on ebay to get a copy when it was sold out
I have no time or love for ebay sellers who list a high price no matter how limited it is IMO it should be retail price + shipping + ebay fee the seller lists and not a penny more

It's a win for customers to not have to go to purchase from ebay and pay more than the retail price
Scalpers loose out with stock they not sold yet from previous order that's life and payback
Customers instead get to purchase at retail price instead

No Paul this isn't about scalping etc. It's about the ethics employed by Zavvi. They should had just listed at a 2.5k print run to begin with, not trying to pull a fast one on their selling tactics and how they mysteriously found 1.5k print in the shed somewhere.

 

[paulboland]

No Paul this isn't about scalping etc. It's about the ethics employed by Zavvi. They should had just listed at a 2.5k print run to begin with, not trying to pull a fast one on their selling tactics and how they mysteriously found 1.5k print in the shed somewhere.

Warner only provided Zavvi 1,000 out of a shared print run in Europe (Italy/France/UK/Czech Republic)
Italy/France and UK sold out very fast the allocation from the print run
This release was underestimated as to the demand and the Film Studio decided to do another print run to meet that demand

 

[Vegano]

The only persons this really hurts are the ebay scalpers
Some members who ended up having to pay high price on ebay to get a copy when it was sold out
I have no time or love for ebay sellers who list a high price no matter how limited it is IMO it should be retail price + shipping + ebay fee the seller lists and not a penny more

It's a win for customers to not have to go to purchase from ebay and pay more than the retail price
Scalpers loose out with stock they not sold yet from previous order that's life and payback
Customers instead get to purchase at retail price instead

Me personally? I don't care about the scalpers situation - they do what they do. If i REALLY want the product, i still won't buy from them - of course, unless i think the price is fair. If something is OOP/OOS, or whatever, then i would expect to pay a bit more, as long as i'm not being scalped. They can list it for whatever outrages price they want, i am noy buying - it's that simple. I've never sold ANY of my (small) collection, but if i did, and i sold on ebay, then i would sell it in auction starting at the price i paid for it. That's just me, though. I don't see the scalper scenario as a morsl dilemma - if it's listed at a high price then don't buy it, simple. I suppose we all have our threshold, and our desire to own the product. But who are we to say that Zavvi won't keep re-releasing "limiteds"? This type of discussion keeps coming up because these situations seem to be happening more and more, and there are those that say, "Well, they' can do it and it's good for everybody" That's fine, it really is, but don't put it out as "Limited to this. that, or the other". That way, EVERYBODY can make an informed decision about whether they want purchase that particular edition/release or not - be it just for the movie, collectable packaging, steelbook, or whatever.