Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Blu-ray SteelBook) (Zavvi Exclusive) [UK]

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Release date: 18th April 2016
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Price: £24.99
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Yeah they've defiantly deleted my comment, they must moderate them before they are put on

Bunch of pricks.

You would think that with them now deleting negative stuff and also have stopped posting the artwork on the Facebook page that they need to change....seriously my pre orders compared to last year is completely different. Last year I had like 10 - 15 on pre order, this year I have 2
 
@ChrisIW @Basil

Nothing HDN can do about it. Here's why ...

It's successful.

I do not like it one bit, I think it looks super ugly just like the rest of you and makes no sense to not match the others.

But there is a more obvious reason as to why they do this. It's being cheap to accommodate multiple Countries.

Let me give you an example of a SteelBook run for another popular movie from a couple years ago. Canada run 4k .... USA run 100k ... USA is biggest consuming market in the world. Imagine our run on Star Wars TFA ... It'll be huge.

All the other Countries EU combined probably wont account to what we make.

So why do you have titleless spines? Because they run your entire run for UK at same time with all the other Countries and distributors. No care in the world about language of title translation for Italy, France, Germany, Asia You will see probably some other Countries with full slips and stuff that go over this steel. As this has been happening in the past to many movies that were titleless. They were in other Countries as well in EU and Asia. They are cutting costs because many of your markets can't support a huge run to bring the total cost down low enough to a price point they like. So they sign on to take X from that global run at a much bigger savings.

So since people still buy them, there is nothing HDN can do or say to change this. Me telling someone even with 500 of you behind us as a voice falls on deaf ears when they are making that $$$$$. It works.

I would just say vote with your wallet as that is what creates change. Tho you are a drop in the bucket, collectors are too compared to a movie of this magnitude where its just about mass casual consumer. If you want just the cool steelbook import from the USA GB. If you want slipboxes and postcards then just wait and presumably one Country will do just that.

Blufans has good Disney licensing relation ... I bet they do the Struzan art on the front ... while doesn't match your set it would be a great TFA steel if they did. Best Buy USA one seems good enough for me.
 
Feel a bit sorry for Zavvi as I don't think they had a say in the design.

Although I do worry that Zavvi need to look at doing things with there steelbooks that set themselves apart from the competition as its not difficult (thanks I part to great sites like HDN) to source alternative copies outside of the U.K.

Its Star Wars TFA .... they are a business and cant turn it down ... and to casual people it'll sell well. Congrats ... I dont blame them for selling this title as many other retailers will to.

HOWEVER ... Since Zavvi releases more steels then anyone and have had marketing campaigns for years on end like "Home of SteelBooks" I wish they would have (and maybe they did try , who knows , doubt it tho!) also offered another SteelBook version for this as even at a 4k run they should have no problem moving it. I can understand no alternative to white house down tho. lol

Granted I realize they are at the studio mercy, but they've released enough exclusive Disney steels that you'd think they could do another for TFA.

But perhaps its already planned like the Marvels ... lol. :p Sell this one now , sell a 3d one in the summer then sell another new art one at Christmas. :p

We can pick this to death, bottom line is yes as @psychoscot said if it merits complaining them complain if you feel like it ... but vote with your wallet wherever that may be and WHENEVER that may be as its SW TFA ... with DISNEY backing. It's not Fox who wont release it again for 5 years ... We are about to go through a Star Wars DECADE ... there will be many chances to own great editions for all the SW movies.
 
I hope we get 60 pages of bitching. This is a specialist forum dedicated to steelbooks, not a politically correct forum dedicated to just kissing a''! Fans are unhappy, THIS IS the place to comment on that. This isn't a purchasing forum it's a discussion forum, that means lots and lots of Negative comments about Zavvi till they stop being garbage and give us what we want which they aren't doing to at least 70% of collectors now. The 30% views are meaningless. Sick of people supporting their rubbish attitude of "we're just a retailer" you're the "home of steelbooks" so get with it and start being The UK Filmarena. Anything less deserves mocking and supporters destroyed

A day later and I'm still frustrated by it all, :banghead: they managed to upset a lot of us collectors, the reaction just here on HDN confirms it, :angry: there is and will be a lot of discontent and anger with this release (massive release).

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Were seeing the frustration with the way we have been let down, it will be vented and expressed in forums where we have the freedom to voice our opinions, even if they try to censor us in other places or try to silence us. Were the steelbook fans and their customers in this or the potential customers. I find it disturbing how they don't want to listen to the complaints, even ones that are about trying to improve the steelbooks and get them to a level that is of premium quality, which were already paying more for. It's not going to go away quietly Disney and Zavvi.

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Oh and just to go one step further .... somewhere up at the top (Disney?) there was a guy who came up with that idea and it saved the Company tons of money .... He's probably best mates with the guy who said take out that extra layer of cardboard in the steelbook cases and we'll save an extra 5 cents for every 25 case. Meanwhile the fans will get Spine slashes.

Where are these guys!?

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Hear, hear to @Stuc @psychoscot @Wreck @steelbobawny

And thanks for the insight wreck

This is why I've had to join the GB for a title on star wars. I just can't have 6 with titles and the one odd one out and it's taken a while to get marvel steels with titles or slips and not going through it all again with Star Wars.
Trying to vote with my wallet not to buy a UK release (or other countries with no spine title) so they hopefully get the picture through sales but like wreck says its Star Wars and will always sell just like marvel so it won't change anyway.

Even though it was expected I'm sick of Disney and the lack of title fiasco, it's really wound me up on this one


I'll still probaly get a 3D release steel along the line too but I'm hoping with a second release the title thing will be different but I'm not sure. If not I'll go where ever they sell it with a title
 
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@Wreck

"So why do you have titleless spines? Because they run your entire run for UK at same time with all the other Countries and distributors. No care in the world about language of title translation for Italy, France, Germany, Asia You will see probably some other Countries with full slips and stuff that go over this steel"

"Let me give you an example of a SteelBook run for another popular movie from a couple years ago. Canada run 4k .... USA run 100k ... USA is biggest consuming market in the world"

If that's the case wouldn't it just be easier to make a proper Steelbook with good artwork along with an English title and spine. The USA is pretty much an English speaking country, along with the UK and if the USA is the biggest consuming market in the world then I don't see why they feel the need to worry about other countries.

I know I sound selfish but I'm sure a lot of you here have gotten a German, French, Chinese etc Steelbook where the title is in the counties language because you can easily look past the foreign language to see the nice looking Steelbook you want to own. I'm sure people wouldn't mind in those countries if it's in English at least then they are getting a front cover title and a spine title. Not to mention if the artwork is amazing they'll easily be able to see past that.

I just think it's better then giving everyone ugly artwork.
 
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@Robsonmonkey few things, I have read on here some Germans for instance who dont want the english equivalent. Personally I respect that. Perhaps that varies by title and what the translations are tho. Granted no title doesnt accomplish that either tho. ha.

I'm not sure on the international laws of the listed Countries we been chatting about. But there are some legal reasons why some have to have the native translated titles. But then there's that loophole of just having none.
 
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@Wreck thanks for your views and reasons why from now on ill just vote with my wallet, my feelings are ill just boycott disney/zavvi releases from now on.

personally i think its appalling that zavvi are not interested in there collectors at all, as proved by them deleting bad reviews and magically overnight another 10 5* reviews have appeared (zavvi employees methinks).

I do think its is criminal that they can't source the american version from disney or suppose it would be disney europe admitting that american disney was better and starts entering the world of poltics but with film arena at the moment showing that it has american version makes a farce of zavvi not doing the same does it not and shows can be done if those pictures are correct and not a mistake on FA's part.

@psychoscot spot on should be able to kick them in the teeth and moan about it to try force change for the future

@Bobthesub post of the year :thumbs:
Hey zavvi, there has been a cancellation.... Have you felt it? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

at least here we have been able to have a disscusion here without any sensorship, thank god for hdn :thumbs:

but another thing has come of this for me ill be avoiding zavvi more and more this year last 2 years cancelled 10 steels for the no title thing but now will be trying to avoid all zavvi steels period which i figure has goto be worth hell of alot more each year. that or just wait for bargain bin prices which will hurt them even more :D:D:D

in there honor i'm no artist but here is a good pic ill be resizing for my sig :rofl:

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Cancelled here also. I've decided now to concentrate on premium steelbooks and not to just buy for the sake of getting it. I would like the choice of 3D and I thought we'd done away with all this George Lucas Star Wars rubbish of bringing out the same movie a million times with different covers, or a new 2 minute interview or a title on the spine. Disney are now doing exactly that. Speak with your wallet people, then they might listen.
 
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But would it be impossible for them to take (add) a percentage of the steelbooks for the American market and ship those to Europe along with the titleless ones? So that UK, Netherlands, Scandinavia, etc. who use English as movie language can sell those and Germany/France,etc get their titleless ones?
 
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Kimchi and blufans are much more expensive than £18. Yes zavvi release aren't as all singing but noone is forcing anyone to buy them, if I don't like it I don't buy it, no sense in moaning. I don't mean you specially I just mean in general people complaining.

And therein you form part of the problem. Firstly this isn't an £18 steelbook, it's a £25 steelbook, and for £25 I would expect way more than the standard discs the amaray gets but in a metal case.

Heck standard Disney releases for $16 (around £10) in the states usually come with the 3D disc, a digital version, and often the frickin sequel packed in as well, AND with a slipcase. To pay £25 for what equates to 'just' a metal case is just a rip off pure and simple when there's no bonus content, extra features, 3D, or better artwork.

In fact, in this case, since the amaray got the Drew Struzan art, that got the better artwork, not the 'premium collectors version'.

Normally I would agree with you in terms of 'if you don't like it, don't buy it', in general consumers have a massively inflated sense of self entitlement these days.

However, in this case (and this is where you form part of the problem - though I mean it in no way offensively so I apologise for any caused) is that this is a very small niche collectors market, steel books aren't insanely popular, and when the (self titled) 'home of steelbooks' zavvi are doing print runs of 2-3000 of a title, that's an incredibly small market indeed, especially when you consider that even then they don't always sell out.

The smaller the run - the higher the price point. So when they can do a run of say 2000 and sell them for £14.99 each, there's still a worthy profit to be had, or else they simply wouldn't bother doing them in the first place.

In situations like this, where they put out a steel that is costing less per unit than one of those limited 2k print runs, and THEN whacking the price up to £25 when it features nothing to justify that price tag AND worse art, let alone no extra slip, discs, features, 3D etc, that's just a blatant cash grab.

Whilst I would usually just agree 'don't like it, don't buy it', unfortunately that just sends the message to zavvi and the manufactures that the uk steelbook market isn't actually worth bothering with. That despite providing them with 20,000 units of the biggest film in a decade - steelbook collectors just didn't buy it. There's no market for it. That then impacts on their willingness to invest in more of those smaller runs.

Whilst people will flock, as I have done, to pick up the group buy Best Buy exclusive, Best Buy and Disney have no way of quantifying (or likely even caring to know) how many of those Best Buy exclusives were purchased and sent abroad. To them all they see is bes buy sold thousands, and the accompanying dollar signs.

'In the American market we shifted 50,000 copies!'

'In the uk market despite providing 10,000 we didn't even manage to shift a third of that.'

It just sends them a message that it's worth producing premium product for the USA, but not for anywhere in Europe. But it's a false message, and one they have no way of understanding unless collectors are vocal.

That really is the only way to make zavvi and Disney aware that we DO want their product, that it is wanted here, but the reasons WHY people aren't buying them in the UK.

I get you don't want to log in and read 60 messages of complaint, but why not flip it on its head? You like it, you've ordered it, and you're quite happy - there are no further release details or information for you to gain from following the thread, so, knowing a LOT of people are unhappy (heck I've never seen this forum light up so fast about anything as this release) why bother to even visit the thread and comment on other peoples unhappinesson on it? You're happy with it, you voted with your wallet as you stated, great. Surely coming on to moan about other people moaning isn't very constructive or productive in achieving a better standard of steelbooks for Europe?

That's not a personal criticism, I mean no offence whatsoever, but this is clearly an important issue to collectors, and one that's simmered for a while with various Disney and marvel releases, to do it to Star Wars too when there are six titled matching steels out there already? Straw that broke the camel's back. It's important collectors ARE vocal about this, otherwise the bigger picture is that they just don't bother with the U.K. At all.

Like Wreck said, it's all about the $$$ and there's little incentive for change, they don't delve into market research into why a particular steel didn't sell so well in one territory, especially at the volume they'll be pumping this title out in.

But as several posters have said, these steels are all likely manufactured in the same place, absolutely no reason whatsoever why X amount of titled units can't be manufactured alongside the u.s print run and be allotted for English speaking territories along with the generic ones when shipped to Europe.

At the very least we can make zavvi aware of how infuriated collectors are so that the next time a film studio tries to pull this crap, they know their consumers won't put up with it, and thus demand a pet slip with English title on just as other retailers in other territories achieve.
 
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They could that, but by doing this they are not going to make as much profit, and that's what it's all about

@Wreck

But would it be impossible for them to take (add) a percentage of the steelbooks for the American market and ship those to Europe along with the titleless ones? So that UK, Netherlands, Scandinavia, etc. who use English as movie language can sell those and Germany/France,etc get their titleless ones?[/QUOTE
 
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But would it be impossible for them to take (add) a percentage of the steelbooks for the American market and ship those to Europe along with the titleless ones? So that UK, Netherlands, Scandinavia, etc. who use English as movie language can sell those and Germany/France,etc get their titleless ones?

This is the perfect argument for the UK to leave the European Union ;)

"So out of all the factors we have in the situation is it the immigration, business, politics, financial side of things which make you want to leave Europe?"

"Well Terry at the end of the day I'm just sick of titleless Steelbooks that currently plagues the home video and film market and hope there's a small chance leaving will fix this"

"....what?"
 
This is the perfect argument for the UK to leave the European Union ;)

"So out of all the factors we have in the situation is it the immigration, business, politics, financial side of things which make you want to leave Europe?"

"Well Terry at the end of the day I'm just sick of titleless Steelbooks that currently plagues the home video and film market and hope there's a small chance leaving will fix this"

"....what?"

LMFAO!!!!!! Brilliant!
 
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